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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is making, confusing the machinic assemblage of bodies with the university. In this regard, I suspect that Deontologist would benefit from reflecting on the critical conditions of his own proj..., so that we don&#8217;t just sloppily speculate in a way that lacks rigor and that arbitrarily [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is making, confusing the machinic assemblage of bodies with the university. In this regard, I suspect that Deontologist would benefit from reflecting on the critical conditions of his own proj&#8230;, so that we don&#8217;t just sloppily speculate in a way that lacks rigor and that arbitrarily [...]</p>
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		<title>By: deontologistics</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I must confess that I haven&#039;t read After Finitude either (mainly because Alex over at conceptualpersona has had my copy for months, but I got it back yesterday!), but I have read some of his papers and some papers on him and the argument, and I am very impressed with it all.

Over all, I must stress that I&#039;m not arguing against Meillassoux&#039;s criticism of correlationism, just the implications many take it to have, namely, that we can return to pre-critical philosophy and breathe easy. Critique is hard work after all.

The whole issue of what precisely &#039;thought&#039; &#039;is&#039; is one which vexes SR as a whole. It&#039;s the question which is just out of reach throughout all of Brassier&#039;s Nihil Unbound, always visible in the background of his various critiquesof other thinkers. I suppose I find myself closer to Brassier than any other of the four main thinkers because I think (precisely because of his proximity to Laruelle) that he&#039;s poised on the precipice of Critique proper, and all he needs is a little push to take it up explicitly.

BTW, I will be posting a bit more of my account of Deleuze&#039;s metaphysics today, which although it doesn&#039;t present a worked out theory of sense, does hint at what such a theory would involve insofar as it presents Deleuze completely non-anthropocentric theory of &#039;signs&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must confess that I haven&#8217;t read After Finitude either (mainly because Alex over at conceptualpersona has had my copy for months, but I got it back yesterday!), but I have read some of his papers and some papers on him and the argument, and I am very impressed with it all.</p>
<p>Over all, I must stress that I&#8217;m not arguing against Meillassoux&#8217;s criticism of correlationism, just the implications many take it to have, namely, that we can return to pre-critical philosophy and breathe easy. Critique is hard work after all.</p>
<p>The whole issue of what precisely &#8216;thought&#8217; &#8216;is&#8217; is one which vexes SR as a whole. It&#8217;s the question which is just out of reach throughout all of Brassier&#8217;s Nihil Unbound, always visible in the background of his various critiquesof other thinkers. I suppose I find myself closer to Brassier than any other of the four main thinkers because I think (precisely because of his proximity to Laruelle) that he&#8217;s poised on the precipice of Critique proper, and all he needs is a little push to take it up explicitly.</p>
<p>BTW, I will be posting a bit more of my account of Deleuze&#8217;s metaphysics today, which although it doesn&#8217;t present a worked out theory of sense, does hint at what such a theory would involve insofar as it presents Deleuze completely non-anthropocentric theory of &#8216;signs&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: glen</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh, bugger, I meant whenever events are subsumed to objects, can you fix that for me please:)

had a long day here in sydney! and it is still going]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, bugger, I meant whenever events are subsumed to objects, can you fix that for me please:)</p>
<p>had a long day here in sydney! and it is still going</p>
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		<title>By: glen</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[another excellent post

I am at a dissadvantage in these discussions precisely because I have not read Meillassoux&#039;s and have only encountered the correlationist argument in Harman&#039;s Latour book. In various places I have raised similar points trying to figure out what the purpose is of dismissing/arguing against correlationism. I guess I should read Meillassoux&#039;s book.

Whitehead talks of conceptual prehensions and processes such as appetition being an intergration of conceptual feelings, etc. 

From a Deleuzean POV the subsumption of the event to the object is exceptionally problematic. Events always exceed the object or even the &#039;objectile&#039;. 

I have written on my blog before about a grammar of the machinic to try to think about a non-human &#039;sense&#039;, because our events are not the events of the cosmos or any other thing with the capacity to fold the cosmos. Deleuze would probably say (and I am probably paraphrasing something of Deleuze that I have forgotten) &#039;to ask what is non-human thought is to miss the non-human of thought&#039;. The spoeculative realists seem to miss the &#039;thought&#039; of the non-human whenever events are subsumed to objects.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another excellent post</p>
<p>I am at a dissadvantage in these discussions precisely because I have not read Meillassoux&#8217;s and have only encountered the correlationist argument in Harman&#8217;s Latour book. In various places I have raised similar points trying to figure out what the purpose is of dismissing/arguing against correlationism. I guess I should read Meillassoux&#8217;s book.</p>
<p>Whitehead talks of conceptual prehensions and processes such as appetition being an intergration of conceptual feelings, etc. </p>
<p>From a Deleuzean POV the subsumption of the event to the object is exceptionally problematic. Events always exceed the object or even the &#8216;objectile&#8217;. </p>
<p>I have written on my blog before about a grammar of the machinic to try to think about a non-human &#8216;sense&#8217;, because our events are not the events of the cosmos or any other thing with the capacity to fold the cosmos. Deleuze would probably say (and I am probably paraphrasing something of Deleuze that I have forgotten) &#8216;to ask what is non-human thought is to miss the non-human of thought&#8217;. The spoeculative realists seem to miss the &#8216;thought&#8217; of the non-human whenever events are subsumed to objects.</p>
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